"I love how people that have no labor experience at all, refuse to listen to their co-workers that have been shop stewards, reps, negotiators and employee advocates for decades when is comes to this. It is like an intern telling their preceptor that the preceptor doesn't what they are talking about and to stop giving them advice." -Medic one
So I have worked here for almost 5 years, to me that is basicaly no time at all, maybe just enough time to START to get the hang of the job, barely. Anways, Medic One seems to think all the stewards, members and negotiators with the lifetimes of experience were pro nemsa. Is there anyone here that could dare to differ? I have seen many, many lifetime ambulance employees supprting the move to IAEP, and who voted for L250. See what I believe is going on, is where Medic One works, he is telling the younger employees how people with no experience voted for L250, I think this is another example of his lies. Anways, I do believe there were people with large amounts of experience on both sides. Medic One, I ask you, how can you honestly post that statement, and how can you honestly believe it? Do you really think we all believe that Torren negotiated our last contract? I don't think so "big guy". I hope you realize the majority of people on these forums are not that stupid. peace out holmes, and keep it real, and quit with yer lies! -nate (p.s. stop twisting that knife if your co-workers backs also! they don't like it, it hurts...)
I said nothing of senior employees. If you would pay attention I know you really want to get back to your play station Nate, but if you would follow me here for a second you may get a fruit snack when we are done. I clearly stated the people that have been shop stewards, reps, negotiators and employee advocates for decades when is comes to this, but since you mentioned it there are not any senior employees from any counties other than the 250 hack counties that support IAEP. As a matter of fact the most senior employee in COCO is a staunch NEMSA supporter. His name is Rich Hodge he is number one on the seniority list. You see Nate the difference between NEMSA supporters and you IAEP regurgitation clowns is that we back up what we say with facts and names.
Oh and I thought you were done with me. Couldn't stay away could you Nate? Just like you couldn't stay from trashing Brooks. You are the kind of friend that just keeps giving and giving.
You back your nonsense with facts and names as long as they arent your name or any facts relating to you. You have no idea what is going on in Santa Cruz and Nate is not spending his time trashing Brooks. Many other people in our county have, and Nate and I have spent alot of time praising Brooks for the service he provided us and expressing interest in him continuing to be involved in our union. Not to help "wipe our A$$es" but because he has alot to offer our county. If you like I can send you a copy of the emial I sent out to our county defending Steve and the service he has done for us. Have you seen a copy of that email? Seeing as how you work here in Santa Cruz you must have seen it? or was that just another one of your lies? Do you listen to the violent femmes? have you heard the song "lies"? It fits. You have so many facts and names. Show me the emails in which Nate is trashing Brooks. Tell me who you are talking to that Nate has trashed Brooks to. Facts and Names. Not hear-say and rumor. You're on the moral decency campaign, play by your own rules.
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Trashing Brooks? Your gonna have to give me an example of that one, I have never done such, I am a big supporter of Brooks, which is why I continue to communicate with him, you are more ignorant then I ever thought. Anywas, I still beg to differ, I know many long time stewards that are supporting the IAEP move. The world as you know it extends beyond what is right in front of your face. How do you think 250 pulled 56 more votes then NEMSA? Do you really think all those members who usually don't keep up on union issues just did that on their own accord? No, they were given information from people they trust, just like many of the NEMSA supporters. Those people they trust were stewards and people with experience. By the way, we know that Tim and Torren never negotiated any of our contracts, so why do you keep saying that experienced negotiaters are supporting NEMSA? Just because you see things one way in the valley, does not mean its the same everywhere else. You know for a fact that people like Rod, Erin, Bill, Jeff Meisner, are big time private EMS advocates. Say what you will about them, they have invested their lives in this career. If you could only get off yout butt, and do a fraction of the work Erin M does for her county, you would be a hero. Try actually be productive instead of insulting ok? Also, concerning your statements that I am like a little kid that eats fruit cups and plays video games, well I guess it just shows how insecure you are that someone younger then you is actually trying to be productive, and voice their opinion. Sorry dude, show us some respect, and we will do the same for you ok "big guy". Try backing things up with facts next time.
Also, medic one, would you like to see the email Brooks sent out regarding his resignation? Maybe you should take a look at it before you think you have the answer for everything "big guy". Steve is an adult, he makes all his OWN decisions. I in no way influenced his resignation. He stated to me that he had conflicts with L250, and would like more time with his family. He also lives 2 hours away, this makes it difficult to be a chief shop steward. I would love to see Steve involved on any level right now, that is his decision though. Oh yeah by the way, after Tims letter, and seeing all the lame propaganda that NEMSA was faxing over the week of voting, I don't think Steve entirely believes NEMSA was everything we all thought it was in the begining. I know that Steve is not fully convinced the IAEP is the best we can do, but I do know that he has seen that they are commited, and have not ran a dirty campaign.
Why do you guys bother with this person. More NEMSA propaganda. All he wants to do is hang the "insult carrot" in front of you in hopes you will bite. I find it godda* funny that he brought up the only person to support NEMSA within CoCo. Not exactly the kinda thing I would want people to know about NEMSA. I have already advised him I will not respond to him, despite his moronic attempts to entice me. I usually do not like it when people paste their own posts, but here's to being resilient:
Medic One,
Apparently you don't read either. The answer was given to you, in detail, by Lee in the post immediately following yours. It was reiterated by Roland's post as well. You are choosing not to listen because your only intent is to continue on stirring the shi*pot. I am having to accept their answers since I was not there, but I trust both of these individuals, neither of whom are liars.
All of your energies continue on one path, destruction of us. All of your rhetoric contain insults and put-downs. You are a sore loser.
The rest of the forum can make up their own minds, I am done with you. I will not respond to anyone that wishes to be a continuous part of this forum without identifying him/herself. You hide under the cloak of anonymity and unleash insult after insult at your fellow EMS workers, if you are even one of us. That is disgusting. It is clear you are true-blue NEMSA all the way. It permeates your existence, hatred of EMS workers.
Shame on me? Shame on you! I am glad we have a service agreement with IAEP. Aren't your efforts better spent going after other contracts? Aren't there other states and unions you can rip apart and decertify? There is a world-full of EMS systems for you to toy with, go forth and do so, but leave us alone to repair what you and Torren have created.
I so look forward to the "Hooked on Phonics, vocational educated man", and any other insults you throw at me. As far as you are concerned , I have chosen a higher path than you and everyone knows it. God forbid you actually turn out to be an EMT, it would be a disgrace to all of us in the private industry given the manner you have chosen to represent yourself.
