I have recently been told that some individuals have been voicing issues concerning my credibility, personal & professionally! Don't whisper! OUT with it! I will resign if you no longer trust me anymore! Let's roll...!
John Greene
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IEAP impress me! Show me that you are SEIU, but different than 250! I will be watching you! Let's roll...!
I am not sure about what happened down there. I had heard that within the last few days of our campaign, you no longer supported IAEP. If, and only of, this is indeed the case, then, yes, one tends to lose credibility with sudden moves like that. I have appreciated the consistency that I have seen from NEMSA supporters like Ian, Aaron, and Sam, to name just a few.
The most important question, though, is whether you lost credibility from your peers you typically represent within your county. You need to get out there and find that out person to person.
I wish you luck in your endeavors. It does bring up a topic that was discussed. This decertification attempt has created a divide. There may be a few stewards that will not be able to continue on in their duties. Stewards, like myself and others as well, have no problem travelling to other counties to help represent our members. We are checking with existing by-laws to ensure that this will be okay. You will have representation in this interim. We are planning EMS focused shop steward training in the event that we do need stewards. I know some of you have been interested in assisting your new local in any way you can.
IAEP was not yet in town when i quite being 250's Boy! I learned things that in my mind no longer were good for EMS, and no drastic change was in our future! I could no longer be in a position to lead or mis-lead members.
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IEAP impress me! Show me that you are SEIU, but different than 250! I will be watching you! Let's roll...!
Interesting that you call into question your own credibility, without addressing your own credibility. Obviously, there are many people out there that have problems with how you have carried yourself, otherwise you never would have written that post.
So, when you yourself ask people "out with it", which is exactly what I did, you turn and get angry (judging by the ending emoticon).
You are a fair weather fan John. You jumped ship when you thought SEIU was going to lose. It is that simple.
Next time, don't ask a question if you are not willing to hear the answer.
You could only dream of being half the man John Green is. John stood up for what he knew was right and was not about to compromise, any longer, his principles for the lies and deception that you and your new found IAEP buds love to push. John Green has allot more character than you will ever have.
And by the way does Bill know that you are posting without his permission?
CopyC3 was 250 then changed to NEMSA at the last minute.
That happened before IAEP came to town.
Medic One is fine with the quick bait and switch.
CopyC3 infers that he would have been with IAEP had they been there prior to his desertion of 250.
Medic One claims that CopyC3 "stood up for what he knew was right and was not about to compromise, any longer, his principles for the lies and deception that you and your new found IAEP buds love to push. John Green has a lot more character than you will ever have."
So it seems that CopyC3 wants to now be a part of IAEP. The claim is "IAEP was not yet in town when I quit being 250s boy." With this statement, it is safe to assume that CopyC3 would have certainly voted for IAEP instead of NEMSA.
Medic One believes that CopyC3 has character and will stick by his principles. It is safe to assume that Medic One is fine with IAEP support if he holds CopyC3 in such high regard.
Let's keep it simple folks. John asked for people to chime in because he believes his credibility has been threatened. If you are not up to accepting the responses that you have asked for, don't ask them. Where's the character in that? Were we to understand John better if he simply came out and said, "I only want you to respond if it makes me feel better about me."
John has yet to come out and say he will give his support to IAEP. Look at the text below his posts, "Impress me", "I will be watching you." I don't see the desire to be part of IAEP from Mr. Greene.
I would have never mentioned John Greene, or his credibility, if it wasn't for John Greene. Nobody opened that can of worms but him.
I actually think that Copy C3's tag line shows a respectable willingness to put diviseness aside. As for his credibility, I can't say. But I do think that It takes a certain amount of guts to be gracious about losing an election that you believed in, and to then continue to be willing to work with the organisation that beat you.
If he continued to be a rigid NEMSA supporter we'd dog him for that, lets not punish someone for being mature enough to attempt to take the high road.
Theres no shame is wising up
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I'm assuming this is the same Lucinda I met the other night at the IAEP meeting. If so, I enjoyed listening to your input and look forward to working with you on our new union. You and Israel both are good, solid people.
My apologies, I did not notice you were here. I know you and everything that has gone on around you.
I know that you are the king of flipflop.
I cannot comprehend how you are able to start such a lame ass thread? What exactly possessed you to ask a question like this. Questions like these are the types of questions you should know the answers to without asking. Kind of like-does my ass look big? or -if I work with Randy and he shoots it on my face, will he be my friend for life?
Very basic stuff John.
Now as for the whole out with it thing. Maybe it is time to do just that.
You know what is up. Don't ask us such ridiculous f*ck*ng questions. You already are way too much of a NEMSITE weirdo as far as I can tell.
JUST KIDDIN THAT WAS FOR MEDIC ONE........ JOHN CALL ME. TALK TO YOU SOON.............
