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Clear_my_side


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I can't hear you shMOe.....


As for the majority of a vote.. it must be 50% +1 of the given populous of voting potentials.. and since NEMSA is contesting the vote.. the need of IAEP is to acquire... I think it's 7 more votes for the NLRB to certify the vote.. well... let's see.. there are 38(?) contested votes that are to be counted to certify the vote.. and even if every one of the votes swings on NEMSA's side.. it's nowhere near close to 50%+1 that is required.. however... of those 38 contested votes.. should 7 of them be in favor of IAEP.. the vote is then certified and that's it... And..since the unfortunate fact is that the NLRB is in charge of this whole fiasco.. lord only knows how long that will be.. in the mean time.. IAEP has been recognized as the representative to affect the contract of SEIU via the service agreement by AMR (please see Louis Meyer letter to confirm..it's on the homepage of this site under the title " AMR recognizes IAEP".. in red) until such time as the NLRB certifies the vote.


Now, my math skills are a little shake ( although I can add 1+1 and it = 2) but.. the likelyhood that IAEP will gather the needed 7 ballots from the contested votes is a lot more likely then NEMSA getting all of them.. and still not having the "majority" I might add......



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Very good Amy,


But I have a little secret for you.  Are you listening?  IAEP will not be getting 7 votes.  Do you want to know why?.......Because IAEP was not on the ballot.  I know this comes as a shock to you but try and cope.  The world is also round and not flat and the earth revolves around the sun.  I know all of this is a little overwhelming but try and stay calm.  It will be ok


 



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First they ignore us,


Then they laugh at us,


Then they fight us,


Then...


We Win.



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Clear_my_side


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You're right.. I misspoke when I said IAEP in that post, my apologies.. SEIU was on the ballot.. and there is a service agreement between them and IAEP to affect the current contract that is in place that has been recogonized by AMR, and therefore will be upheld...


exactly what is the likelyhood that NEMSA will come out of this with the majority of the votes? Once again.. even if all 38 votes are given into NEMSA's favor.. they still don't have the designated 50%+1 that is required...



-- Edited by Clear_my_side at 23:46, 2004-10-11

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Neither does SEIU.  So Miss. Labor law, what happens then?



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Clear_my_side


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???


did you loose the thread of this post or something?


by the way.. I'm sorry, but I can't accept the title of Ms. Labor Law.. I'm not the all knowing as you believe that you are.. and therefore don't believe that the title is correct.. now the Fab 5 title.... that's a whooooole different story!!!



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What happens then, we default back to SEIU, because NEMSA couldn't rally enough support. Even if nemsa Had 660 votes, and 250 had 5, we would still be with SEIU.

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Wrong Nathaniel,


Try again


I'll make it easy on you people.  There will be a run-off election between the two selections that recieved the highest votes.  So there would be a new vote with SEIU and NEMSA on the ballot.  Bill Bower knows all about this because he is in a run off in Stockton for city council based on the same election principle.


I hope you can do better than this on the by-laws there sell out



-- Edited by Medic_One at 00:13, 2004-10-12

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Clear_my_side


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you and I have obviously forgotten, Nate, that MO has been touch by the hand of the Pope of NEMSA and therefore is the all knowing when it comes to anything regarding IAEP and SEIU and the vote that took place...


All that he says is to be regarded as fact, and even when you prove it otherwise, it's still fact in the eyes of all that follow the church of NEMSA.....That is the price you must pay to become a follower, give up the right of independent thinking and questions....


surely we have yet to see the light....



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Amy, oh Amy, are you there Amy?


Unlike you and Nate and all the IAEP toddlers that suck at the IAEP teet for all there information. There are those of us that actually read the law, call the NLRB and verify verify verify.  If you did the same you would not be so ignorant of the law and what is going on around you. 


 



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Clear_my_side


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chirp chirp... chirp chirp... mmm.. crickets... of course.. you're soo mean you'd probably step on them.. guess I'm just tired of your inability to respond to my original post and give me good solid reason as to why I should support NEMSA.. particularly since this division is still technically up for grabs.. at least you've given no arguments that are worthy enough anyway... but that's my opinion isn't it.. an opinion I might add that holds a vote and a voice that is blatently apparent not in NEMSA's favor. Way to swing popular opinion!



-- Edited by Clear_my_side at 06:54, 2004-10-12

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STRIFE


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Either way, NEMSA still didn't get a majority votes, and SEIU still had more votes PLUS they were the incumbent. NEMSA did not prove to us they had enough support to make a self ran union work.

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"Wrong Nathaniel, Try again I'll make it easy on you people.  There will be a run-off election between the two selections that recieved the highest votes.  So there would be a new vote with SEIU and NEMSA on the ballot.  Bill Bower knows all about this because he is in a run off in Stockton for city council based on the same election principle. I hope you can do better than this on the by-laws there sell out-- Edited by Medic_One at 00:13, 2004-10-12"

Run off? Sweet. Without Contra Cost, Mr. I don't want anyone to know who I am, NEMSA has no chance. In fact, all we have to do is print some quotes from you, rhino, and Vern and hand them out to our members. We may change to IAEP local 1200.

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" Run off? Sweet. Without Contra Cost, Mr. I don't want anyone to know who I am, NEMSA has no chance. In fact, all we have to do is print some quotes from you, rhino, and Vern and hand them out to our members. We may change to IAEP local 1200."
I'm sure you will send out copies of quotes.All IAEP's idea of campaigning is send out lie after lie. You guys are big at taking what people say and twisting it into other meanings and then making up lies to support you ****.

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"I'm sure you will send out copies of quotes.All IAEP's idea of campaigning is send out lie after lie. You guys are big at taking what people say and twisting it into other meanings and then making up lies to support you ****."
Yaa, you might want to try that again. Take your time and think before you write, big guy.

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You can't twist the crazy words of Bonifay.


You can't embellish the rants of Medic Dumb.


You can't be inconsistent and fail the back peddle a thon the way prehistoric animals do.


You certainly cannot out do a stupid idiot like you, ratfink.


Bring on another campaign.  I would love to see the madcow burgers fried up on AMR property again.  NEMSA shirts worn by management?  Did that really happen?  Oh, this is too rich!


Whatever happened to that rocket scientist from SCCO?  WCUnionGuy.  I saw him all over the IAEP Local 1 site.  He looked like he was making a comfy bed back east.  Guess he was getting ready to branch out and be some kind of east coast leader.


How is it going in Boston, NEMSITES?



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