BYLAW SPIN

The Rat Killer · Veteran Member

RE: BYLAW SPIN

Play with My Money · Senior Member

No, I can not agree, and do not agree. This is nonsense, and nothing I have to "deal" with.

Duck Hunter01 · Member

"extreme minority?" What the hell are you talking about RODDDDD? 1740 (appox) did NOT VOTE for IAEP. I guess that makes you guys the minority! What's next Rod? A "secret" health care task force a la Hillary?

Forfend · Senior Member

As long as people do not get involved, everything will be secret because they will not be present for the truth. They will have nothing but rumor to run with. Quack quack quack quack quack quack quack.

snake911 · Veteran Member

I cant speak for all of the IAEP supporters but I know for a fact that not all of them were paid. Why do I know that? Because I was and still am an IAEP supporter and to this day I have not revceived a paycheck, lost time pay, hotel room, meal, or reimbursement for travel expenses from anyone, IAEP/SEIU/or otherwise. I also have not been offered any position or power, either paid or unpaid, such as a field rep or president. Is it that hard to believe that others would support something without there being financial gain for themselves? I have not received anything that could be construed as "payment" for my services unless you count the doughnut I ate at the AlCo bylaws meeting (Ok it was 2 doughnuts but I was really hungry). Perhaps you dont understand people not being motivated by money because your whole motivation in NEMSA was driven by the promise of a big paycheck "when this thing takes off". I understand that you would like all of us to be as corrupt, deceitful, vile, and shallow people as you are but that is not the case. It would make you feel better if IAEP supporters were in this for the same things you were. It would make it sting just a little less if you can rationalize your defeat by saying you were beat by a union with more money to buy votes than NEMSA had. That simply isnt true for all of us. Nobody paid for my vote. Nobody paid for my coworkers votes. Some of us retain the ability to analyze a situation based on its merits and not on the financial promises made by insecure aspiring demigod's.

-- Edited by snake911 at 23:03, 2004-10-20

Paramaniac · Senior Member

Brad,

That would put you and I in the same boat. I have received no type of reimbursement whatsoever. There have been no promises to anyone about positions within the union. If anyone wants to be on the Eboard, you will have to achieve it by securing the votes of your fellow field employees.

Otherwise, how you been Brad? Steamers Lane go off with that storm? By the way, when did they put up all that ugly railing along the bluffs? I don't remember any of that in my teenage years when we'd come up to surf there (why we would leave HB to surf 500 miles away, who knows!)

Rod

The Rat Killer · Veteran Member

quote:
Originally posted by: snake911
"I cant speak for all of the IAEP supporters but I know for a fact that not all of them were paid. Why do I know that? Because I was and still am an IAEP supporter and to this day I have not revceived a paycheck, lost time pay, hotel room, meal, or reimbursement for travel expenses from anyone, IAEP/SEIU/or otherwise. I also have not been offered any position or power, either paid or unpaid, such as a field rep or president. Is it that hard to believe that others would support something without there being financial gain for themselves? I have not received anything that could be construed as "payment" for my services unless you count the doughnut I ate at the AlCo bylaws meeting (Ok it was 2 doughnuts but I was really hungry). Perhaps you dont understand people not being motivated by money because your whole motivation in NEMSA was driven by the promise of a big paycheck "when this thing takes off". I understand that you would like all of us to be as corrupt, deceitful, vile, and shallow people as you are but that is not the case. It would make you feel better if IAEP supporters were in this for the same things you were. It would make it sting just a little less if you can rationalize your defeat by saying you were beat by a union with more money to buy votes than NEMSA had. That simply isnt true for all of us. Nobody paid for my vote. Nobody paid for my coworkers votes. Some of us retain the ability to analyze a situation based on its merits and not on the financial promises made by insecure aspiring demigod's. -- Edited by snake911 at 23:03, 2004-10-20"

Hey, snake why so defensive, got a secret to hide. You Iaep people on this site are the ones who make all the claims. You say all the Nemsa supporters are in it for the money. Maybe you should all cut the act and acknowledge the fact that they are not. I doubt Torren or nemsa even knows my name

snake911 · Veteran Member

Actually I was not defensive in my post. Its called information. I you would like you can call my Ops director and request my payroll info. I would be happy to have you inspect it and see that I am only paid for my time working on an ambulance. No lost time for any reason. And as far as any of us are aware, nobody knows your name. Thats the beauty of remaining annonymous. I am well aware that "The Rat Killer" was not a name that would be found on the NEMSA payroll. The alter ego behind "The Rat Killer"? Who knows what they were promised? You unwillingness to show your true identity makes it seem as if you have a vested interest in hiding. What could you be hiding?

TheCuteCat · Veteran Member

Rat,

What are you talking about? Are you saying the only reason why I helped in Northern California was because I was fired from AMR? I don't need to lie, I was fired and am in the process of getting my job back now. I am not worried about it. Why are you so worried about it?

If you are saying that the only reason I helped was because I was fired, you just don't make sense. There is this novel thought of actually gaining another job after losing one. Well, guess what? I did. I had to take time off of work to go up North.

By the way, since you found out I was fired, then I am sure you can find out what I was fired for. I will leave that up to you, to see if you can actually do research. Happy hunting!

-- Edited by TheCuteCat at 23:00, 2004-10-21

Forfend · Senior Member

I have not been wanting anything to do with union business.

I have never felt like doing this union stuff before. I am among strangers and coffee is more appropriate.

Have a nice morning.